Meeting setup
- Date: 15.10.2007
- Time: 09.30 Norw. time
- Place: Internet
- Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype
Agenda
- Opening, agenda review
- Reviewing the task list from last week
- Documentation - divvun.no
- Corpus gathering
- Corpus infrastructure
- Infrastructure
- Linguistics
- name lexicon infrastructure
- Spellers
- Other issues
- Summary, task lists
- Closing
1. Opening, agenda review, participants
Opened at 09:47.
Present: Børre, Per-Eric,Sjur, Thomas, Tomi
Absent: Risten, Trond
Agenda accepted as is.
2. Updated task status since last meeting
Børre
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
- Hunspell lexicon conversion
- made a test setup, to see which words and wordforms are recognized
- nouns, adjs and verbs are converted okay’ishly
- update Bugzilla to 3.0.x
- begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
- add texts from Torkel Rasmussen
- fix bugs!
- assigned a corpus bug to Saara
Ilona
- lexicalise missing words
- add
smj proper nouns
- other
smj tasks
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
Per-Eric
- expand the smj typos list
- add missing smj words
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
- fix bugs!
Risten
- write text to go on the CD cover
- set up CD-printing printer
Saara
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs
(source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
Sjur
- document the AppleScript testing tool
- document the testing procedures
- work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
- test correct-type markup with latest enhancements
- not done, but discussed markup nesting with Saara
- get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
- offer received, signed, and we are waiting for the delivery - hopefully this
week
- collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
- make available InDesign hyphenator to Min Áigi/Davvi Girji
- document the InDesign tools
- add hyphenation testing
- fix bugs!
- other tasks:
- improved Mac uninstaller for MS Office tools by making it into a standard
application, and also by completely removing all installed files.
Thomas
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources- begun
- add
smj proper nouns
- added
- fix bugs!
- worked
Tomi
- Hunspell lexicon conversion
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- fix oslolaš bug in
smj (Tomi)
- fix bugs!
Trond
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources- fix bugs!.
3. Documentation
The new Bugzilla is good:)
TODO:
4. Corpus gathering
Sjur discussed error markup nesting with Saara, she will add nesting
possiblities to the xml conversion tool.
TODO:
- test correct-type markup with latest enhancements (Sjur)
- add texts from Torkel Rasmussen (Børre)
5. Corpus infrastructure
Nothing.
6. Infrastructure
Speller testing is now fixed, and won’t change.
7. Linguistics
North Sámi
No real issues at the moment.
Lule Sámi
Tomi has fixed the smj oslolaš isssue.
We still have some missing baseforms asides names. These should be checked.
TODO:
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf
original where in doubt (Per-Eric)
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and
increase smj coverage (Trond, Thomas, Svenne)- add proper nouns (Thomas, Ilona)
- look at missing baseforms (Thomas)
8. Name lexicon infrastructure
This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly Sjur’s task.
Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in [this meeting
memo.|/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html]
TODO:
- set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again (Sjur, Børre)
- fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
- finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
- test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
- make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as
well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g.
propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
- convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files
(Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
- implement data synchronisation between risten.no and
the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server
to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the
official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
- start to use the xml file as source file
- clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use
(e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
- merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki,
Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
- publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
- add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
- add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils
(linguists)
Hunspell
Sami languages are not supported in OpenOffice.org, until that is fixed we will
have to do the same tricks we apply in Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac.
Børre has a UTF-8 issue with reading LexC files in the java code.
TODO:
- Begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org (Børre)
- Hunspell lexicon conversion (Tomi, Børre)
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code (Tomi, Børre)
- add closed POSes by adding a new output format to the present PLX conversion
code (Tomi, Børre)
- add build and compilation instructions (Børre)
- release an internal alpha for testing (Børre)
- add hunspell testing to the make file (Sjur)
- debug and fix remaining conversion issues (Børre, Tomi)
Testing
Spelling Error Markup
TODO:
- Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not,
added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
(Børre, Kimme)
- add nested error markup to xml conversion (Saara)
- test new and nested error markup (Sjur)
Automated testing
The infrastructure is now fixed for speller testing, hyphenation testing still
coming.
TODO:
- document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
- document the testing procedures (Sjur)
- add hyphenation testing
Open issues based on test results: smj - 489, 506, vissa, 536;
sme - 380, 397, 408, 419, 425, 426, 431, 449, 452, 461, 489, 522, 524, 525,
529, 535, 536, 542.
TODO:
- fix oslolaš type bug in
smj (Tomi)
The beta was sent to Min Áigi and Davvi Girji.
We now need to expand testing for InDesign. The first task is to install it on more computers.
TODO:
- make available InDesign hyphenator to Min Áigi/Davvi Girji (Sjur)
- document the InDesign tools (Sjur)
- add hyphenation testing (Sjur)
- buy InDesign CS3: one Mac upgrade, one Mac full, one Windows (Børre)
Hyphenators
There are some hyphenation errors we need to debug.
We should look into the possibility of generating pattern-based hyphenation for
OOo. It shouldn’t be too hard, or require too much work, but needs
investigation.
To check for bad hyphenation: open a document in word, set the correct language,
turn automatic hyphenation on, and change the layout to 4 columns. Then read
through the document to check for bad hyphenation.
TODO:
- get command line hyphenator (Sjur)
- collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator (Thomas, Per-Eric)
Beta release
TODO:
- add note and download link to front page (Tomi)
- translate beta 2 download note on front page (Thomas, Sjur)
Release version
The CD cover etc. will be worked on by John-Marcus Kuhmunen, and will follow the
SD design rules. He is now waiting for the text to be put on the CD cover and
other places.
TODO:
- write text to go on the CD cover (Risten)
- set up CD-printing printer (Risten)
10. Other
Corpus contracts
Delayed till after final release.
TODO:
- publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
(Sjur)
Bug fixing
When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla
bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been
fixed, in what file(s) and what version.
56 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (23 of these 56 are speller-related bugs,
33 are other bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs
11. Next meeting, closing
The next meeting is 22.10.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time.
The meeting was closed at 10:47.
Appendix - task lists for the next week
Boerre
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
- begin adding support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
- set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
- add closed POSes to Hunspell speller
- add build and compilation instructions for Hunspell
- release an internal Hunspell alpha for testing
- buy InDesign CS3: one Mac upgrade, one Mac full, one Windows
- fix bugs!
Ilona
- lexicalise missing words
- Will I have new missing lists to do?
- add
smj proper nouns
- other
smj tasks
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
Per-Eric
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
- collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
- fix bugs!
Risten
- write text to go on the CD cover
- set up CD-printing printer
Saara
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs
(source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
- add nested error markup to xml conversion
Sjur
- document the AppleScript testing tool
- work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
- set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again
- test new and nested error markup
- get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
- document the InDesign tools
- add hyphenation testing
- add hunspell testing
- translate beta 2 download note on front page
- fix bugs!
Thomas
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources- add
smj proper nouns
- look at missing baseforms, smj
- check for bad hyphenation
- collect list of problematic words for the hyphenator
- translate beta 2 download note on front page
- fix bugs!
Tomi
- Hunspell lexicon conversion
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources- add note and download link to front page
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
- add closed POSes to Hunspell speller
- fix bugs!
Trond
sme->smj lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources- fix bugs!.