Notes from an ad-hoc discussion 19.4.2012
Merging Actio, Der/n and Der/eapmi
Reason for discussion
- Der/n and Der/eapmi are in complementary distribution, and express the same = they are the same = Der/Actio
- Actio and Der/Actio are the same thing as well, just used in different syntactic contexts
- in some cases there are two forms, one long and one short, parallel to what we find in other parts of the grammar = the existence of parallel short and long forms is not an argument for having two categories
- in eastern dialects the long forms are used in cases where western dialects use the short form, further underlining the fact that the short and long forms are really variants of the same
Change it like this?
- Der/n, Der/eapmi and Actio in the present tagset is changed to Der/Actio
- the new Der/Actio gets a full noun paradigm, with both Sg and Pl, and all cases (the fact that Plural and some cases are not used in a verbal context (=the old Actio) is a reflection of the syntactic context, and not an indication of a defective paradigm)
Discussion
Nickel/Sammallahti har tre grupper: s 65: Som del av verbalet: Actio Loc og Actio Ess. s. 66: Utenfor verbalet: Actio Nom, Actio Gen og Actio Com s. 613: Handlingsnomen (“Denne avledningen ble tidligere kalt misvisende for aktio eller aktioform”) + -eapmi s. 615 I sammensetninger -an.
Dagens norm-fst:
borran
borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Gen
borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Nom
borran borrat+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes
borran borrat+V+TV+PrfPrc
borran borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen <==== Der/n => Der/NomAct + Allegro
borran borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Nom
borrama
borrama borrat+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes
borrama borrat+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes
borrama borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen <=== Der/NomAct
borrama borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Acc <=== Der/NomAct
borramiin <==== legge til Actio+Com
borramiin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Pl+Loc <=== Der/NomAct
borramiin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Com <=== Der/NomAct
borramis
borramis borrat+V+TV+Actio+Loc
borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Nom+PxSg3
borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Acc+PxSg3
borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Gen+PxSg3
borramis borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Sg+Loc <=== Der/NomAct
borrame
borrame borrat+V+TV+Actio+Ess <==== Short? Argument mot: bruken er dialektavhengig, og da bør taggene være de samme for begge dialektene.
borrame borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Ess <==== denne fjernes
borramin
borramin borrat+V+TV+Actio+Ess
borramin borrat+V+TV+Der/n+N+Ess <=== Der/NomAct
lágidan
lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen <==== denne vil opptre kun i sammensetninger. Vi kan evt innføre lágidit+V+TV+Der/N+Cmp ?
lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Nom
lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen
lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes
lágideami
lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Acc
lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen
lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes
lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes
lágideame
lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Der/eapmi+N+Sg+Gen+Allegro <=== Der/NomAct
lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Ess
lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Gen <==== denne fjernes
lágideame lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Acc <==== denne fjernes
lágideamen
lágideamen lágidit+V+TV+Actio+Ess
Fra korpus:
"<Son>"
"son" Pron Pers Sg3 Nom @SUBJ>
"<lei>"
"leat" V IV Ind Prt Sg3 @+FAUXV
"<merkestemiinis>"
"merket" V* TV Der/st Der/eapmi N Pl Loc PxSg3 @ADVL> <======= Px
"<hui>"
"hui" Adv @>ADVL
"<vuollegaččat>"
"vuollegaččat" Adv @ADVL>
"<govvidan>"
"govvidit" V TV PrfPrc @-FMAINV
"<dán>"
"dát" Pron Dem Sg Acc @>N
"<ártegis>"
"ártet" A Sg Gen PxSg3 @>N
"<olmmošgaskavuođa>"
"olmmoš#gaskavuohta" N Sg Acc @<OBJ
"<,>"
Nickel/Sammallahti:
1) Innafor verbalet: (leat) čállime/čállimin Actio Ess (heaitit) čállimis Actio Loc
2) Utafor verbalet: áhči čállin girji - en bok som far har skrevet - Actio Nom čállin dihte - Actio Gen <– čállimiin Actio Com
čállit+V+TV+Actio+Acc ««««««« dette er den problematiske lágidan lágidit+V+TV+Der/NomAct+N+Sg+Gen ««««< kortform, berre i sms lágideami lágidit+V+TV+Der/NomAct+N+Sg+Gen
(čállin girji) skal samskrives slik: - čállingirji - skrivebok +Der/NomAct+N
296: divvunmiella áiddi mus lea čállinmiella girjji.
3) Avleiing čállin čállimat Der/NomAct N Sg Acc – likestava lágideapmi Der/NomAct N Sg Kasus – ulikestava finnes i Sg on Pl, og alle kasus
Actions
- hiva ut actio acc och ill, och in alla andra (og fjern alle Err/Sub)
- bare korformen skal ha Actio Gen (borrama og lágideame og lágideami skal bort)
- hiva in alla px:ar igen, ja ved derivasjonane
- lágidan Der/NomAct ska bara gå till R
- follow-up on the CG to check that the removed tag doesn’t create changed output