Meeting setup
- Date: 23.04.2007
- Time: 10.30 Norw. time
- Place: Internet
- Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat
Agenda
- Opening, agenda review
- Reviewing the task list from last week
- Documentation - divvun.no
- Corpus gathering
- Corpus infrastructure
- Infrastructure
- Linguistics
- name lexicon infrastructure
- Spellers
- Other issues
- Summary, task lists
- Closing
1. Opening, agenda review, participants
Opened at 10:51.
Present: Børre, Maaren, Per-Eric, Sjur, Steinar, Thomas, Tomi
Absent: Saara, Trond
Agenda accepted as is.
2. Updated task status since last meeting
Børre
- update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds
problem areas - low priority
- find missing
nob parallel texts in corpus
- improve number PLX conversion
- add
sma texts to the corpus repository
- collect a list of PR recipients, forward to Berit Karen Paulsen
- run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
- add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the
prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
- test speller installers on Windows and Mac
- worked perfectly straight from Polderland, we will have to add our own
updates to the spellers and test the installation again
- set up Per-Eric’s computer
- install all required software on Per-Eric’s computer
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon
- add numbers as figures to the PLX sources
- fix bugs!
- other:
- helped out on the issues with the compilation of the spellers
- added documents to the prooftest folder on victorio
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
- Manually mark speller test documents for typos
Saara
- prepare more files for manual alignment
- improve cgi-bin scripts
- add new features to the paradigm generator
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- discussion started in newsgrp
- compilation of verb lists
- not done since there are some problems
- speed in smj conversion
- fix bugs!
Sjur
- finish press release for the beta
- collect a list of PR recipients
- make the version info date stamp reflect the compilation date automatically
- run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
- not yet done, but the infra is about to become ready
- document the AppleScript testing tool
- integrate regression self tests with the make file
- not yet done, but the infra is ready
- make improved
smj speller (incl. derivations and compounds)
- worked on it all week last week
- set up Per-Eric’s computer
- install all required software on Per-Eric’s computer
- set up all user accounts for Per-Eric
- improve speller test bench
- done some, needs more integration
- add names to
smj speller
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon
- studied the packages, not yet finished.
- fix bugs!
Steinar
- Beta testing: Align manually (shorter texts)
- Manually mark speller test texts for typos (making them into gold standards),
add the texts to the orig/catalogue
- started working, some text are now added
- Complete the semantic sets in sme-dis.rle
- missing lists
- added some missing words lately
- Look at the actio compound issue when adding from missing lists
- Align corpus manually
- fix bugs!
Thomas
- work with compounding
- Lack of lowering before hyphen: Twol rewrite.
- translate beta release docs to
sme and smj
- Add potential speller test texts
- fix bugs!
Tomi
- make improved
smj speller (incl. derivations and compounds)
- make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
- improve number PLX conversion
- improve prefix and middle-noun PLX conversion
- fix bugs!
Trond
- Test the beta versions
- Work on the parallel corpus issues
- Discuss with Lars
- Work on the aligner with (Børre)
- Done, good progress on anchor.txt
- fix
sme texts in corpus this month
- Not enough progress here.
- find missing
nob parallel texts in corpus, go through Saara’s list
- Included missing school history texts
- Postpone these tasks to after the beta:
- update the
smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological
analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
- Go through the Num bugs
- Improve automatic alignment process
- Improved indeed, due to anchor.txt and improved length measure (1.15).
- Align corpus manually
- Add potential speller test texts
- collect a list of PR recipients
- Not looked at that issue.
- set up all user accounts for Per-Eric
- fix bugs!.
3. Documentation
The open documentation issues fall into these three categories:
- Beta documentation for testers
- Documentation for the online corpora
- General documentation improvement after Steinar’s test (for open-source
release)
TODO:
- write form to request corpus user account (Børre, Sjur, Trond)
- delayed till after the beta release
- document how to apply for access to closed corpus, and details on the corpus
and its use in general (Børre, Sjur, Trond)
- delayed till after the beta release
- correct and improve it based on feedback from Steinar (Børre)
- beta documentation (see separate beta section below)
4. Corpus gathering
Børre has gathered a lot of documents from the OAO department in Sámediggi,
most available in victorio, in our prooftest corpus branch.
TODO:
sme texts: no new additions, fix corpus errors during this month
(Børre, Trond, Saara)- missing
nob parallel texts should be added if such holes are found
(Børre, Trond)
- Go through the list of missing or errouneous
nob texts, based upon
Saara’s perfect list (Børre, Trond)
- add
sma texts to the corpus repository (Børre)
5. Corpus infrastructure
Alignment
TODO
- Improve the automatic process:
- Improve the anchor list and realign (Trond, Børre)
- Only adding words does not improve alignment, you have to consider the format
as well. If you cut with star e.g guo@ too early, wrong word can be selected.
- The documents have still some formatting issues which cause trouble in
alignment. (In some documents tables are included to the text, some not,
etc.)
- Test and improve settings in the aligner
- Align manually (Trond, Steinar) (especially shorter terminological texts)
good idea. Saara will look for troublesome texts and prepare them for
manual alignment.
6. Infrastructure
TODO:
- update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds
problem areas (Børre)
7. Linguistics
North Sámi
TODO:
- lexicalise actio compounds. Example: vuolggasadji vs. vuolginsadji
(Maaren)
- fix stuorra-oslolaš lower case
o (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
- postponed till after the public beta
Lule Sámi
A lot of work was done last week, as part of Thomas training Per-Eric.
TODO:
- refine
smj proper noun lexica, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
(Thomas, Trond)
8. Name lexicon infrastructure
Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in [this meeting
memo.|/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html]
TODO:
- fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
- finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
- test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
- make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as
well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g.
propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
- convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files
(Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
- implement data synchronisation between risten.no and
the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server
to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the
official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
- start to use the xml file as source file
- clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use
(e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
- merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki,
Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
- publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
- add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
- add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils
(linguists)
9. Spellers
OOo speller(s)
TODO after the MS Office Beta is delivered:
- add Hunspell data generation to the lexc2xspell (Tomi - after the
PLX data generation is finished)
- study the Hunspell formalism in detail (Børre, Sjur, Tomi)
Testing
Spelling Error Markup
TODO:
- Manually mark test texts for typos (making them into gold standards)
(Steinar)
- change
ccat to handle error/correction markup (Tomi)
- extract the whole text, both the original text and their corrections, in a
tab separated file:
erorr<TAB>correction - just as typos.txt. Used for
another type of speller testing. correction should be an emtpy string if
there is no correction.
- done, see –help for documenation
- if the option doesn’t show up in –help, the installed binary isn’t updated.
Please ask Saara to compile and install if so. Tomi should check
whether the newest
ccat is available in victorio/G5
- Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not,
added to lexicon or not)
- add the wanted xml elements to the XSL header (Saara) (source info is
the same as for regular docs):
- outworned (ie not suitable for speller testing any more, only for regression
testing)
- lexicalised (all unknown, correctly spelled words added to lexicon)
- Conduct tests on new beta versions on the basis of the unspoiled gold standard
documents (whoever has time), and fill in data from testing (the testers:
who?)
- Steinar has done this sporadically
- alternatively: make test scripts that will run the tests automatically,
collect the numbers, and transform them into test results (Sjur)
- done, except that they don’t work with our tailored Forrest
- include the files already publically tested into the
prooftest cataloge
(Steinar, Trond)
- test each version before beta release
- we don’t have a public beta release candidate yet:(
TODO:
- document the AppleScript testing tool (Sjur)
- improve speller test bench (Sjur)
- first usable version done
- Forrest bug needs to be debugged (Børre, Sjur)
- integrate the ccat speller testing options in the Makefile (Sjur, Tomi)
Regression tests
TODO:
- add extraction of all known spelling errors in the corpus (not the
prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
(Børre, Sjur)
ccat now ready, it should be integrated in the Makefile (Sjur, Tomi)
- test the
typos.txt list, and check that all entries are properly corrected
(Børre, Sjur)
- consider how to do a regression self-test, ie, how to test the full
wordlist (Børre, Sjur)
- extract all the base forms in the lexicon, and run them through the speller
- extract all SUB-marked entries, and run them through the lexicon
- integrate these in the make file (Sjur)
Localisation
We need to translate the info added to our front page (and a separate page)
regarding the beta release. Also the press release needs to be translated.
TODO:
- translate beta release docs to
sme (Thomas)
- translate beta release docs to
smj (Thomas)
Postverbal clitics - the discussion moved in another direction, and the topic
was forgotten. The status of the latest speller is: postverbal clitics are
recognised. Topic closed.
Numbers
TODO:
- add numbers as figures to the PLX sources (Børre)
Compounding restrictions
How to include compounding restriction comment tags in the transducers:
giv0ri:giv'ri ALBMI ; !+SgNomCmp +SgGenCmp +PlGenCmp
=> (using a perl script or similar)
+SgNomCmp+SgGenCmp+PlGenCmpgiv0ri:giv'ri ALBMI ; !
TODO:
- improve prefix conversion to PLX (Tomi)
- improve middle noun conversion to PLX (Tomi)
- improve noun + adjective PLX conversion: (Tomi)
- compounding stems - how do we generate them? Using the java client?
+SgNomCmp+Cmpnd = sáme–, should give the correct compounding stem,
shouldn’t it? We want to optionally go from: sáme- NLI to
sáme NL: - NLI (->) NL, which means we should be able to
extract correct compounding stems using xfst methods only.
- compounding tags - we need to obey them when making the transducers.
Suggestion - see above.
- add propernouns to xfst-based conversion
- done
- make conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
(Tomi)
- to regression test / QA the PLX conversion.
- improve number conversion (Børre, Tomi)
- run xfst-based PLX conversion on victorio, make the result available on our
public server (Saara, Sjur)
- done, but the web server (the humfak server) disk is too small - the present
disk size is 10 Gb, we need at least 50 Gb. 100 Gb should give us room to
grow. Trond, Børre to ask for larger disk.
Public Beta release
We still have problems with sorting the PLX data. We will have Polderland sort
it, and make the beta. We need to investigate where the error is in our tool
chain.
letter a from the sorted file:
14583071 al-le!ruo-vá-tjij-da-sis-ka NIR
14583072 al-le VI
14583073 al-le NIALR
14583074 al-le^Aruo-vá-tjijt NIR
TODO:
- improved
smj speller (incl. derivations and compounds) (Sjur, Tomi)
- done in principle, see sorting problem above.
- add numbers, compound restrictions to both spellers if time permits
(Børre, Tomi)
- add names to
smj speller (Sjur)
- finish press release (Sjur)
- add info to front page (incl. download links) (Børre)
- download page made, only needs to add the speller beta when it is ready.
- write separate page with detailed info (incl. download links) (Børre)
- a separate page for the beta speller, with installation instructions, etc.
- translate press release, web pages (Børre, Thomas, whoever)
- collect a list of PR recipients, forward to Berit Karen Paulsen
(Børre, Sjur, Trond)
- test speller installers on Windows and Mac (Børre)
- we have a new multilingual Windows installer, which needs to be tested
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon (Børre, Sjur)
- we need to test the procedure, and make sure it works
Version identification of speller lexicons
TODO:
- make the date stamp reflect the compilation date automatically (Sjur)
10. Other
Corpus contracts
TODO:
- publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
(Sjur)
- delayed until the public beta is out the door
Bug fixing
51 open Divvun/Disamb bugs, and 23 risten.no bugs
New team member
We had problems getting iChat to work from Per-Eric’s computer. Needs to be
resolved. 1. backup system: Skype for all -> Steinar. Second backup system:
POT:)
TODO:
- set up computer (Børre, Sjur)
- install all required software (Børre, Sjur)
- set up all user accounts (Sjur, Trond)
- fix iChat setup on Per-Eric’s computer (Sjur, Børre)
11. Next meeting, closing
The next meeting is 30.4.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time.
The meeting was closed at 11:34.
Appendix - task lists for the next week
Boerre
- add
sma texts to the corpus repository
- collect a list of PR recipients, forward to Berit Karen Paulsen
- run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
- add extraction of all known spelling errors in the regular corpus (not the
prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
- test speller installers on Windows and Mac
- we have a new multilingual Windows installer, which needs to be tested
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon
- add numbers, compound restrictions to both spellers if time permits
- add numbers as figures to the PLX sources
- update and fix our documentation and infrastructure as Steinar finds
problem areas - low priority
- find missing
nob parallel texts in corpus
- Forrest dispatcher bug with spelltest results needs to be debugged
- study the Hunspell formalism in detail together with Sjur and Tomi
- add extraction of all known spelling errors in the corpus (not the
prooftest corpus), and check that they are properly corrected
- test the
typos.txt list, and check that all entries are properly corrected
- Ask for larger disk for the webserver.
- add info to front page (incl. download links)
- write separate page with detailed info (incl. download links) (Børre)
- a separate page for the beta speller, with installation instructions, etc.
- translate press release, web pages (Børre, Thomas, whoever)
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon (Børre, Sjur)
- fix bugs!
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
- Manually mark speller test documents for typos
Per-Eric
Saara
- prepare more files for manual alignment
- improve cgi-bin scripts
- add new features to the paradigm generator
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- compilation of verb lists
- read the manual for graphical corpus interface and try to add files with Lars.
- fix bugs!
Sjur
- finish press release for the beta
- collect a list of PR recipients
- run all known spelling errors in the corpus through the speller
- document the AppleScript testing tool
- integrate regression self tests with the make file
- make improved
smj speller (incl. derivations and compounds)
- improve speller test bench
- update installer packages with latest speller lexicon
- Forrest dispatcher bug with spelltest results needs to be debugged
- integrate the ccat speller testing options in the make file
- fix bugs!
Steinar
- Beta testing: Align manually (shorter texts)
- Manually mark speller test texts for typos (making them into gold standards),
add the texts to the orig/catalogue
- include the files already publically tested into the
prooftest cataloge
- Complete the semantic sets in sme-dis.rle
- missing lists
- Look at the actio compound issue when adding from missing lists
- Align corpus manually
- fix bugs!
Thomas
- work with compounding
- Lack of lowering before hyphen: Twol rewrite.
- translate beta release docs to
sme and smj
- Add potential speller test texts
- fix bugs!
Tomi
- make improved
smj speller (incl. derivations and compounds)
- add numbers, compound restrictions to both spellers if time permits
- make PLX conversion test sample; add conversion testing to the make file
- improve number PLX conversion
- improve prefix and middle-noun PLX conversion
- check whether the newest
ccat is available in victorio/G5
- integrate the
ccat speller testing options in the Makefile
- fix bugs!
Trond
- Test the beta versions
- Work on the parallel corpus issues
- fix
sme texts in corpus this month
- find missing
nob parallel texts in corpus, go through Saara’s list
- Postpone these tasks to after the beta:
- update the
smj proper noun lexicon, and refine the morphological
analysis, cf. the propernoun-smj-lex.txt
- Go through the Num bugs
- collect a list of PR recipients
- Ask for larger disk for the webserver.
- fix bugs!.