Meeting setup
- Date: 12.11.2007
- Time: 09.30 Norw. time
- Place: Internet
- Tools: SubEthaEdit, iChat/Skype
Agenda
- Opening, agenda review
- Reviewing the task list from last week
- Documentation - divvun.no
- Corpus gathering
- Corpus infrastructure
- Infrastructure
- Linguistics
- name lexicon infrastructure
- Spellers
- Other issues
- Summary, task lists
- Closing
1. Opening, agenda review, participants
Opened at 09:44.
Present: Børre, Ilona, Risten, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond
Absent: Per-Eric
Agenda accepted as is.
2. Updated task status since last meeting
Børre
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
- follow-up support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
- haven’t found any solution
- fix bug 550
- install Leopard on the G5 and the Xserve
- move giellatekno.uit.no (including Bugzilla) and www.divvun.no to the G5.
- bugzilla is not available yet, haven’t been able to compile the necessary
perl module for database access.
- add paradigm testing
- fix Windows CD installation bug
- fix bugs!
Ilona
- lexicalise
smj
missing words
- add
smj
proper nouns
- other
smj
tasks, ask Thomas
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
Per-Eric
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
- fix bugs!
Risten
- finish the design/text for the CD and the cover
- set up CD-printing printer
- Leif Åge has ordered a new printer
- try to burn a CD at SD
Saara
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs
(source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
- add nested error markup to xml conversion
- add hunspell testing support
Sjur
- work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
- set up risten.no on the G5 again
- test new and nested error markup
- get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
- recieved a first version, it contains the hyphenation bug, but it lets us set
up the hyphenation test bench
- add hyphenation testing
- add hunspell testing
- add paradigm testing
- fix bug 550
- fix hyphenation of derivations, inflections
- follow-up support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
- done - it looks promising at the moment, but the OOo deadline for getting
into OOo 2.4 is this week - otherwise we have to wait until version 3:(
- fix Windows CD installation bug
- fix bugs!
Thomas
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- add
smj
proper nouns
- check for bad hyphenation
- look at test cases still not behaving properly
- fix hyphenation of derivations, inflections
sme->smj
name conversion
- fix bugs!
Tomi
- Hunspell lexicon conversion
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
- fix hyphenation of derivations, inflections
- fix bugs!
Trond
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- fix hyphenation of derivations, inflections
- Meeting held, the linguistic side seems ok, but awaiting speller testing
to see whether we are there.
sme->smj
name conversion
- telephone meeting with Sjur and the faroese group re faroese speller
- Still not been able to get hold of the two of them at the same time.
- fix bugs!.
3. Documentation
Nothing new.
TODO:
4. Corpus infrastructure
Nothing.
5. Infrastructure
[http://giellatekno.uit.no] and [http://www.divvun.no] are now hosted on the G5. Bugzilla is
not yet up and running again.
ssh www.divvun.no = G5
ssh giellatekno.uit.no = G5
ssh 129.242.220.111 = xserve
Jabber support = iChat server:
- encrypted chats
- permanent chat rooms
- stored and forwarded messages
- archive of chats, indexed and searchable
Addresses of the format:
sjur@divvun.no
trond@giellatekno.uit.no
TODO:
- add Jabber account in iChat (all)
6. Linguistics
North Sámi
We solved(?) the hypheantion problem, but got instead a circularity problem.
Meeting 12:30 Norw. time Tuesday to fix the circularity problem after the
hyphenation fix.
TODO:
- fix hyphenation of derivations (Thomas, Tomi, Sjur, Trond)
- fix circularity issue (Sjur, Tomi, Trond)
Lule Sámi
Name conversion improvements last week.
TODO:
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list, but check against the pdf
original where in doubt (Per-Eric)
- Ilona is working on the last letter in the alphabet, we’re almost
finished:)
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources, and
increase smj
coverage (Trond, Thomas, Svenne)
- some additions coming in there as well, but not until we have checked every
new word manually
sme->smj
name conversion (Trond, Thomas)
- add proper nouns (Thomas, Ilona)
- look at missing baseforms (Thomas)
- only two missing baseforms at the moment:)
7. Name lexicon infrastructure
This sub-project needs to get up and running soon. Mainly Sjur’s task.
Decisions made in Tromsø can be found in [this meeting
memo.|/admin/physical_meetings/tromso-2006-08-propnoun.html]
TODO:
- set up Tomcat and risten.no on the G5 again (Sjur, Børre)
- install risten.no
- fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
- finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
- test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
- make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as
well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g.
propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
- convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files
(Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
- implement data synchronisation between risten.no and
the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server
to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the
official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
- start to use the xml file as source file
- clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use
(e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, Maaren, linguists)
- merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki,
Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
- publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
- add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
- add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils
(linguists)
Hunspell
TODO:
- Follow-up support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org (Børre, Sjur)
- there is still hope to get them included in OOo 2.4
- Hunspell lexicon conversion (Tomi, Børre)
- nothing major happened last week, working on getting the basic conversion
correctly (ie complete and correct inflection), then adding derivation
- add hunspell testing to the make file (Sjur)
- done
Testing
Spelling Error Markup
TODO:
- Set up ways of adding meta-information (source info, used in testing or not,
added to lexicon or not) (Saara)
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
(Børre, Kimme)
- add nested error markup to xml conversion (Saara)
- test new and nested error markup (Sjur)
Automated testing
Paradigm testing implemented, but the reporting needs improvements. Testing
manually:
cd gt/sme/testing
gen-paradigms.sh
Output in paradigm-sme.txt
.
Test words should go in the file
parawlist.txt
. The format is like this:
WORD<TAB>POS
áigi n
ráhkistit v
We need to separate proper nouns from regular nouns properly, by checking the
files prop-codes.txt
and n-codes.txt
, as well as making sure the
Makefile has support for proper noun paradigm generation.
TODO:
- add hyphenation testing (Sjur)
- add hunspell testing (Saara, Sjur)
- add paradigm testing (Børre, Sjur)
- done, but needs improvements
MS Office
We need to check that the proofing tools are working in all Office applications,
not only Word. This is especially important on Windows, which includes quite a
few applications in the bundle.
TODO:
- test the proofing tools with all MS Office applications (Børre, Thomas)
Open issues based on test results:
smj
482 - still problematic, 552 - still open, Svierigadárogielan - still rejected
sme
397 - not as good as it should be, 408 - fixed, 419, 425 - roman
number, 431, 452 - miel is a prefix, 461 - ovda accepted, almost 50 %
(17) gets correct suggestion, 489, 508 - fixed, 522, 524.
TODO:
- look at test cases still not behaving properly (Thomas, Tomi)
TODO:
- add hyphenation testing (Sjur)
Hyphenators
We should look into the possibility of generating pattern-based hyphenation for
OOo. It shouldn’t be too hard, or require too much work, but needs
investigation.
TODO:
- get command line hyphenator (Sjur)
Release version
We need to print the CD cover pretty soon, and for that we need to finish the CD
cover, especially the back side text. The cover proof print should be ready in 14 days, ie Nov. 26.
TODO:
- try to burn a CD at SD (Risten, Leif-Åge)
- finish text to go on the CD cover (Risten)
- set up CD-printing printer (Risten)
- fix Windows CD installation bug (Sjur, Børre)
- get price and schedule for printed CD cover (Risten)
Actual release
December 11-13, one of these days.
9. Other
Corpus contracts
Delayed till after final release.
TODO:
- publish corpus contracts and project infra as open-source on NoDaLi-sta
(Sjur)
Faroese
Speller for fao
using our infrastructure and the knowledge we have.
TODO:
- set up a telephone meeting with them and Sjur (Trond)
Bug fixing
When fixing bugs, record the version number containing the fix in the Bugzilla
bug report, such that for each bug, we know exactly when it should have been
fixed, in what file(s) and what version.
69 open Divvun/Disamb bugs (35 of these 56 are speller-related bugs,
34 are other bugs), and 23 risten.no bugs
Dictionaries
We have now 7 dictionaries in xml format that could be published in a
risten.no-like framework. Trond would like to have them online, both for the
feedback and usefulness to the public.
It requires that eXist/XQuery + homepage, and conversion to a proper
presentation format is in place.
TODO:
- eXist on G5 - done
- risten.no on G5 - homepage done, but needs port tweaking/changing
- risten.no XQuery framework - NOT done
- XInclude conversion script - NOT done
- homepage on the documetation pages - draft done
Parallel corpora
There will be a parallel corpus seminar this weekend. It would have been
nice to have parallel text for that:
- fkvnob (from Kvensk Institutt)
- smenob, smanob, smjnob (from Sámi skuvlahistorjá)
TODO:
- discuss more parallel texts (Børre, Saara, Trond)
SD yearly personell seminar
6.-7. December. Sjur will discuss it with Julia, but our view is that we
don’t have time to go this year. The release are just a few days later.
Software updates
- SubEthaEdit - Ilona still missing:)
- Leopard, 10.5
- installed:
- not yet:
- Thomas
- Ilona
- Tomi
- Trond
- Per-Eric
- Skype 2.6.x
10. Next meeting, closing
The next meeting is 19.11.2007, 09:30 Norwegian time.
Trond will be away in the next meeting.
The meeting was closed at 11:13.
Appendix - task lists for the next week
Boerre
- move Steinar’s error markup in the xml files to (a copy of) the original
- fix Unicode bug in Hunspell conversion java code
- fix bug 550
- move Bugzilla to the G5.
- fix Windows CD installation bug
- discuss more parallel texts
- fix bugs!
Ilona
- lexicalise
smj
missing words
- other
smj
tasks, ask Thomas
Maaren
- lexicalise actio compounds
Per-Eric
- lexicalise words from the Olavi missing list
- fix bugs!
Risten
- finish the design/text for the CD and the cover
- set up CD-printing printer
- try to burn a CD at SD
- get price and schedule for printed CD cover
Saara
- add new XSL/XML headers for proofing test docs
- Set up ways of adding meta-information for proofing correct corpus docs
(source info, used in testing or not, added to lexicon or not)
- add nested error markup to xml conversion
- discuss more parallel texts
Sjur
- work on the XML name editor/risten.no integration
- set up risten.no on the G5 again
- test new and nested error markup
- get command line hyphenator for automated testing of the hyph-lexicons
- add hyphenation testing
- improve paradigm testing
- fix bug 550
- follow-up support for the sami languages in OpenOffice.org
- fix Windows CD installation bug
- fix circularity issue in nonrec transducers
- fix bugs!
Thomas
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- check for bad hyphenation
- look at test cases still not behaving properly
- paradigm testing
- fix bugs!
Tomi
- Hunspell lexicon conversion
- fix circularity issue in nonrec transducers
- fix bugs!
Trond
sme->smj
lexicon conversion to build bilingual lexicon resources
- fix hyphenation of derivations, inflections
- telephone meeting with Sjur and the faroese group re faroese speller
- fix circularity issue in nonrec transducers
- discuss more parallel texts
- fix bugs!.